DUST Search - FW: I pretend it matters.

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

Jason Pearson wrote:

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

We agree, we want FW to more visible, unique from instant battle and more rewarding for those invested in it. The answer to why it isn't like that now is we just havn't gotten to it yet. FoxFour has a big design documented written up about how it should all work though so we will hopefully get to put that plan into action in an upcoming release.

Provided we can implement a suitable method for dealing with griefers, what do you guys think about enabling friendly fire for faction warfare? We are also considering how we could allow full team vs team in FW again, a bit like the old corp battles but without the hassle and planning (and no shows).

Oh my god, blue tagged. I knew it would happen to one of my threads eventually :P

Friendly Fire would be interesting but I don't see many solutions to dealing with griefers, unless doing it so many times got you banned from that factions side for a period of time. Example, I join Gallente and keep running over my guys, I am deactivated and I get a mail indicating that I'm not allowed to join for so long, with each offense being longer I s'pose?

The FW battles need an AFK system where those who aren't near a point or gaining WP will receive a warning and then get kicked, once that's sorted then rewards need to be upped, I've heard about things such as "LP" I think? This may help a lot creating an additional reason to playing.

Last for me, personally, would be some kind of visual aspect indicating that stuff is going on in the universe, would make things interesting and at least would let us know we're doing something that has an effect in New Eden.

We are considering something along those lines for dealing with friendly fire. Occasional incidents will give you a slap on the wrist, repeated griefing gets you kicked out of that militia for a period of time.

AFK will be dealt with for all game modes so don't worry about that.

For the visualization yes absolutely, we want players to see what impact they are having in DUST and in EVE. Hans on the CPM keeps bugging me for more ways for the militias in EVE to interact with the DUST mercs too, including paying them for their services which I think would be pretty damn awesome.


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Avinash Decker BetaMax. CRONOS. 60	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:19:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: We agree, we want FW to more visible, unique from instant battle and more rewarding for those invested in it. The answer to why it isn't like that now is we just havn't gotten to it yet. FoxFour has a big design documented written up about how it should all work though so we will hopefully get to put that plan into action in an upcoming release. Provided we can implement a suitable method for dealing with griefers, what do you guys think about enabling friendly fire for faction warfare? We are also considering how we could allow full team vs team in FW again, a bit like the old corp battles but without the hassle and planning (and no shows). Oh my god, blue tagged. I knew it would happen to one of my threads eventually :P Friendly Fire would be interesting but I don't see many solutions to dealing with griefers, unless doing it so many times got you banned from that factions side for a period of time. Example, I join Gallente and keep running over my guys, I am deactivated and I get a mail indicating that I'm not allowed to join for so long, with each offense being longer I s'pose? The FW battles need an AFK system where those who aren't near a point or gaining WP will receive a warning and then get kicked, once that's sorted then rewards need to be upped, I've heard about things such as "LP" I think? This may help a lot creating an additional reason to playing. Last for me, personally, would be some kind of visual aspect indicating that stuff is going on in the universe, would make things interesting and at least would let us know we're doing something that has an effect in New Eden. We are considering something along those lines for dealing with friendly fire. Occasional incidents will give you a slap on the wrist, repeated griefing gets you kicked out of that militia for a period of time. AFK will be dealt with for all game modes so don't worry about that. For the visualization yes absolutely, we want players to see what impact they are having in DUST and in EVE. Hans on the CPM keeps bugging me for more ways for the militias in EVE to interact with the DUST mercs too, including paying them for their services which I think would be pretty damn awesome. Handling FF and griefing will be very difficult , they are plenty of ways to abuse different systems . If you do you get kicked for X amount of killings than I dont have to kill them; just harass them. Shoot them until their shields are down oruse flux grenades to destroy their shields which will cause them to get them killed , or I can jump on tank and get in the way of their turret. Smart griefers use this to their advantage to make players kill them so they are the ones to get banned, I seen this countless times. And if the players don't shoot them then they will continue to harass the players until they do or out right kill the victim ( if they have less than the X amount to get kicked/banned) . Also nothing stop players from making new accounts/characters . Although a lot people will say kill them back or grief them , but like I said thats what griefers want you to do so you will get punished too and if you participate in griefing them , you have the possibility of costing your team the match(especially if team kills count as clones lost ) . Unlike in Eve , capuslers are not restricted to time , clone , or player count limits , well at least not the same way . So if a few idiots are trying to kill each other and my team doesn't win the match because of that , then I don't and the rest of my team ,do not get the rewards , which cause people to get pissed off. CCP can implement some type of insurance system , but it depends how you guys do it. I can just never pay it or use militia gear or again, simply, make new accounts/characters . The reason I saying this is because a lot of players will most likely justify this because it's New Eden or "Its how its done in Eve online." If you guys really really want FF then try to do it in a clever , intelligent way . Make it too restrictive griefers will abuse it to get their teammates to get punished or make it to lenient it will basically be FFA.